tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post2534449297731260980..comments2023-11-08T12:09:20.020-05:00Comments on Prove Me Wrong: Quote Of The DayJonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-15212367601624799312011-02-08T13:19:20.964-05:002011-02-08T13:19:20.964-05:00You gotta love the irony of the quote: it was by a...You gotta love the irony of the quote: it was by a person the world fought against in probably the most justified war in human history, WWII.HispanicPundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10220166238164432290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-87983275168275680182011-02-07T14:16:42.263-05:002011-02-07T14:16:42.263-05:00Chomsky says that they are threatening in one sens...Chomsky says that they are threatening in one sense (the threat of a good example) and non-threatening in another (militarily).<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Z05xyGB0c" rel="nofollow">Here's an interesting discussion</a> from 1985 from Chomsky related to the Soviet threat.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-89995208063171982232011-02-07T13:52:52.211-05:002011-02-07T13:52:52.211-05:00I don't think that war is always inevitable. T...I don't think that war is always inevitable. The Swiss seem to be able to avoid war pretty well. It could be geography, or it could be the government, or it could be the chocalate, but they seem to avoid it. <br /><br />I hadn't heard about code b before, but one thing that stands out is that the CIA saying that the USSR was weak seems to contradict Chomsky's claims that US documents claimed that the USSR was frightening because people would see how well communism worked. It's not really a contradiction, because the government is not monolithic.Darf Ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00396174363474177403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-27529150727868178662011-02-07T10:23:21.064-05:002011-02-07T10:23:21.064-05:00It seems it is unless you can figure out a way to ...It seems it is unless you can figure out a way to resist fear mongering.<br /><br />In light of Reagan's birthday I stumbled across something related to Team B. Have you heard of this? They were unhappy that the CIA was basically saying that the Soviet Union was quite weak and not as much of a threat. So an independent analysis group was formed within the CIA to reach independent conclusions. All made up of hawks of course.<br /><br />So you can imagine the conclusions, all which appear to have been wrong in retrospect. They have subs that are undetectable. Know how we know? We can't detect them. So Reagan rode the fear mongering to victory and used their analysis to justify death squads in El Salvador. Must be a KGB plot. They're so powerful they control everything, so we must resist with violence. They were behind the papal assassination attempt, etc.<br /><br />Then they started punishing the remainder of the analysts for coddling the Soviet Union, for what we later learned was correct analysis. Huge pressure to come to the most scary conclusions. This lead directly to the Iraqi intelligence failures.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-23772244738709326122011-02-07T08:13:46.685-05:002011-02-07T08:13:46.685-05:00Do you believe Göring? If so it almost seems as if...Do you believe Göring? If so it almost seems as if war is inevitable. L.F. Richardson had some interesting quotes about whether it was inevitable that I'll try to dig up when I get the chance.Darf Ferrarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00396174363474177403noreply@blogger.com