tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post5901756134671361818..comments2023-11-08T12:09:20.020-05:00Comments on Prove Me Wrong: Will I Be Forced To Admit Jesus Is Lord?Jonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-20823057401620038062011-06-22T04:47:54.707-04:002011-06-22T04:47:54.707-04:00There is no need of confusion - Jesus does miracle...There is no need of confusion - Jesus does miracles. I have seen many miracles and even demon possessed people crying in the church meeting from my childhood (My father was a pastor). I heard them saying they can't sit here in the presence of Jesus...<br /><br />It was an amazing declaration from demons.ROBERT PAULhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09747510673517344170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-4365855112464031432011-04-21T12:24:22.700-04:002011-04-21T12:24:22.700-04:00No news? Will you be forced to admit Jesus is Lor...No news? Will you be forced to admit Jesus is Lord or what?Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04304785587403573072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-74469557062781584652011-03-08T08:50:52.967-05:002011-03-08T08:50:52.967-05:00Any news?Any news?Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04304785587403573072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-28975071516496991832011-02-22T19:57:22.454-05:002011-02-22T19:57:22.454-05:00My friend busily whisked by me today and said he n...My friend busily whisked by me today and said he needed to talk but he was on the run. He's actually really busy. Travels a lot. I thought he might have an update for me, but he never got a chance to stop by.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-76867257789133125772011-02-21T18:25:35.902-05:002011-02-21T18:25:35.902-05:00Any news on this?Any news on this?Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14278834635241999491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-8082661962352745722011-02-12T23:44:20.368-05:002011-02-12T23:44:20.368-05:00He did say about a week ago that the week of the 1...He did say about a week ago that the week of the 13th would be it. So this week. He still acts like this will happen.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-82340055553709686142011-02-12T03:01:35.447-05:002011-02-12T03:01:35.447-05:00How astonishing that no evidence was produced.
I ...How astonishing that no evidence was produced.<br /><br />I thought Christians were not supposed to lie.Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-59756265118005473692011-01-31T19:17:38.887-05:002011-01-31T19:17:38.887-05:00Supposedly these meetings were going to all be lin...Supposedly these meetings were going to all be lined up by the end of this month, but it seems that didn't happen.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-31874662543529632372011-01-26T02:49:43.894-05:002011-01-26T02:49:43.894-05:00How long does it take to verify a miracle?How long does it take to verify a miracle?Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-83758465699029992772011-01-14T15:30:43.799-05:002011-01-14T15:30:43.799-05:00Thank you, JonThank you, JonDagoodShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04557451438888314932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-37794570287262984802011-01-14T14:01:35.760-05:002011-01-14T14:01:35.760-05:00Yep, you are welcome to join us DagoodS. I'll...Yep, you are welcome to join us DagoodS. I'll keep you in the loop.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-9834335347015762772011-01-13T21:31:18.670-05:002011-01-13T21:31:18.670-05:00I would love to have company. I've asked my f...I would love to have company. I've asked my friend if we can work that out, but haven't heard back. I emailed him. I'll let you know.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-38973967191046119432011-01-13T08:46:08.590-05:002011-01-13T08:46:08.590-05:00Do want company on this lunch date, or are you win...Do want company on this lunch date, or are you winging it?<br /><br />I'll be good. I promise.DagoodShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04557451438888314932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-63417470524378901372011-01-12T18:53:22.289-05:002011-01-12T18:53:22.289-05:00Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking we should just ch...Yeah, exactly. I'm thinking we should just check the newspapers for proof, but nothing so far. I'm not sure why 12 hours was needed. I think he said there is a death certificate, so I'll try to get that.<br /><br />Don't think the drawers are air tight, but they might as well have been since it doesn't matter to God, right?Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-65947282911569479272011-01-12T18:21:15.853-05:002011-01-12T18:21:15.853-05:00Any word on why it took 12 hours to notify the nex...Any word on why it took 12 hours to notify the next of kin? (Actually, it seems she wasn't notified.)<br /><br />And there must have been a death certificate,if the coroner was notified.<br /><br />I'm not sure of the legal requirements, but I doubt if a coroner is always notified of a death in Britain.<br /><br />Are those drawers you see in movies air-tight?<br /><br />I take it that this never made the local papers.<br /><br />'Man raised from dead'. You would think it would be a headline somewhere...Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-55386538806962980392011-01-12T13:07:40.875-05:002011-01-12T13:07:40.875-05:00"this lady went throughout the hospital heali..."this lady went throughout the hospital healing people."<br /><br />Really? Does she still have this ability or was it a temporary thing?<br /><br />I am being a bit sarcastic but I am genuinely curious if this lady had healing powers, how did she get them? If there were temporary, why?Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14278834635241999491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-3320328441729834232011-01-12T10:40:27.194-05:002011-01-12T10:40:27.194-05:00Well, I'll post an update. I don't have t...Well, I'll post an update. I don't have the hard evidence, but I do have claims that the evidence will be forthcoming.<br /><br />He's spoken with 4 doctors, all of whom are prepared to go to lunch with me and discuss the particulars. Another thing is that for the 3 days subsequent to the resurrection event this lady went throughout the hospital healing people. All of these doctors became Christians.<br /><br />So the assertions remain very bold and I'm told the evidence is coming together. I do want the documentation, not testimony from doctors. I've told him this and he knows it. He's sort of suggested that not all of the most impressive claims are contained in the medical records, but the toe was tagged and the coroner received the dead body and there is documentation for that.<br /><br />Very impressive sounding so far. We shall see.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-13765981061641235782011-01-12T07:43:14.926-05:002011-01-12T07:43:14.926-05:00So was any evidence forthcoming?So was any evidence forthcoming?Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-13111032730204006702011-01-10T03:38:56.660-05:002011-01-10T03:38:56.660-05:00Actually it seems St. Thomas might have an Elizabe...Actually it seems St. Thomas might have an Elizabeth Ward after all. I will have to check.Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-24139600174215883482011-01-09T05:45:33.366-05:002011-01-09T05:45:33.366-05:00Here is another miraculous healing in the Elizab...<a href="http://www.pflame.org/html/worship/sermons/PFUMC_Sermon_20090628.pdf" rel="nofollow"> Here </a> is another miraculous healing in the Elizabeth Ward of St. Thomas's Hospital London.<br /><br />It has been published in a million selling Christian apologetic book 'Questions of Life'.<br /><br />It truly is a miracle as <a href="http://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/pandv/wards.aspx" rel="nofollow"> St Thomas </a> does not have an Elizabeth WardSteven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-27336559990622471972011-01-09T04:54:51.819-05:002011-01-09T04:54:51.819-05:00' Doctors were baffled and all converted to Ch...' Doctors were baffled and all converted to Christianity.'<br /><br />Gosh , the number of non-Christians in America is amazingly high, as conversions are still happening.<br /><br />'12 hours later his wife arrives at the hospital. "Where's my husband?" "I'm sorry ma'am, he's passed."'<br /><br />12 hours to contact the next of kin? Who only gets contacted by arriving at the hospital?<br /><br />What hospital does not inform the next of kin?Steven Carrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-28484734864321636462011-01-07T09:47:08.133-05:002011-01-07T09:47:08.133-05:00Get the medical records first. No need to talk to...Get the medical records first. No need to talk to the actual doctors, nurses, etc. If this was her husband, they should be readily obtainable (if she didn’t have them already.) <br /><br />Out of selfishness, see if I can review them, too.DagoodShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04557451438888314932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-7858691472199288262011-01-06T21:35:01.685-05:002011-01-06T21:35:01.685-05:00True, but here's the thing. I don't even ...True, but here's the thing. I don't even care about winning and losing so much. We didn't even really decide on what would happen if he was wrong. I have my obligations and I'll fulfill them. But here's what he has to do. Talk to the actual doctors. Look into claims. I tell ya, when he told me this story he was entirely convinced. And he was somewhat shocked at my confident response that it was all bull. "Why would this person lie to me?" Well, maybe she did, maybe she didn't. But you are going to discover that what she told you wasn't true in any case. He's going to discover the virtue of skepticism. And he's going to understand a little better why someone like me would doubt the resurrection of Jesus. He spoke first hand with the person involved in the miracle. If he can so easily become so confident based on only this, how much more these ancient superstitious illiterate people?<br /><br />So here's an update by the way. He called the woman and told her that he really needs to dig into it because this just might lead someone to Christ. Heck, that's not wrong. If everything he said is true that's going to tip the scales toward supernaturalism for me at a minimum. Her first response is "Great!! Bring him over, we'll have a barbecue and I'll tell him all about it." My friend told her that wasn't good enough. He needed to dig in to the evidence and provide that for me, so he's asking her to work with him tracking down the facts, putting him in touch with the doctors. She tells him several doctors were present and nurses. So he's off working with her tracking this down for me.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10530680372103907969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-74223161405726470122011-01-06T15:48:49.051-05:002011-01-06T15:48:49.051-05:00Jon,
Did you get the particulars as to what happe...Jon,<br /><br />Did you get the particulars as to what happened? The problem with bets like this is there can be too much wiggle room. For example, if they are claiming 12 hours, to win it has to be 12 hours. Not 12 minutes. I fear anything presented will not be quite as dramatic as stated, but they will claim, “SOMEthing happened” and demand to be declared the winner.DagoodShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04557451438888314932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1899606766246433608.post-7635233796197198382011-01-05T16:50:37.446-05:002011-01-05T16:50:37.446-05:00Why would Jesus save this man from death?
Ignorin...Why would Jesus save this man from death?<br /><br />Ignoring for the moment that even if any part of the story has any semblance of truth we are still a long way from showing that Jesus (or a God) is responsible.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14278834635241999491noreply@blogger.com